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BENASQUE (Pirineo aragonés). A 1.140msnm 
Zaragoza (Depresión del Ebro). A  220msnm 
       
La comarcalización mola mogollón; pero la Geografía mola más todavía.
http://casabringasort.com/blog-meteobenas/     @meteobenas
Datos de Benasque en tiempo real: http://casabringasort.com/estacion-meteorologica/

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#2198
La actividad solar mas baja en 100 años, desconcertando a los científicos
Reuters | 18 de septiembre 2013


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En 1933, Wolfgang Gleissberg identificó un super-ciclo que ocurre cada 87 años. Otros han afirmado encontrar ciclos aún más largos. Algunos científicos creen que las cuentas del ciclo Gleissberg de la sucesión de tres ciclos muy débiles de 11 años entre los años 1880 y la década de 1910.

Si eso es cierto, y el ciclo Gleissberg, se repite, entonces el próximo ciclo solar, Ciclo 25, que se dará en la década de 2020, podía ver un número aún menor de las manchas solares y un nivel más bajo de actividad solar.

El problema es que nadie sabe cuál es la causa del ciclo Gleissberg (y es mucho menos frecuente la evidencia de que en la serie de tiempo es mucho menor que para el ciclo de Schwabe). Tampoco saben cómo distinguir entre un ciclo Gleissberg normal y el inicio de un nuevo mínimo de Maunder.

Así que si un nuevo mínimo de Maunder está en el camino, que los analistas insisten en que no es así, es probable que cogernos por sorpresa.

Teniendo en cuenta lo poco que se conoce variaciones en la actividad solar, sería absurdo que depender de un mínimo de Maunder para compensar el aumento de la temperatura global debido a las emisiones de efecto invernadero.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/19/solar-activity-drops-to-100-year-low-puzzling-scientists/
Será el 2011 cuando se de el maximo solar,al menos un pico del maximo solar,de este interesante ciclo 24?Pues no,Abril del 2014 con valor SSN=116'4.Esperando al Ciclo Solar 25.

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Cita de: 180961X en Viernes 18 Octubre 2013 17:35:46 PM
Citar
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Solar-activity-drops-to-100-year-low-puzzling-scientists/articleshow/22719807.cms

El enlace no rula, Juse
Lo acabo de probar y a mi si que me funciona  :( :( lo que yo he traducido con google unas lineas,per si se abre en inglés
Será el 2011 cuando se de el maximo solar,al menos un pico del maximo solar,de este interesante ciclo 24?Pues no,Abril del 2014 con valor SSN=116'4.Esperando al Ciclo Solar 25.


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Bueno ya está operativo el enlace dichoso  de mas arriba, disculpad el lapsus
Será el 2011 cuando se de el maximo solar,al menos un pico del maximo solar,de este interesante ciclo 24?Pues no,Abril del 2014 con valor SSN=116'4.Esperando al Ciclo Solar 25.

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A ver si podeis probar este otro enlace, que a su vez contiene el que intento poner yo.Decidme si os funciona este please y así borro la anterior parrafada

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/19/solar-activity-drops-to-100-year-low-puzzling-scientists/
Será el 2011 cuando se de el maximo solar,al menos un pico del maximo solar,de este interesante ciclo 24?Pues no,Abril del 2014 con valor SSN=116'4.Esperando al Ciclo Solar 25.


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Cita de: Lechuzo en Sábado 19 Octubre 2013 01:07:02 AM
Ahora si que rula Juse.
Gracias Lechuzo, ya he borrado la parrafada  y teneis el enlace operativo en mi primer post donde traducia al español, la ultima parte de la noticia.
Será el 2011 cuando se de el maximo solar,al menos un pico del maximo solar,de este interesante ciclo 24?Pues no,Abril del 2014 con valor SSN=116'4.Esperando al Ciclo Solar 25.

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Cita de: juse en Sábado 19 Octubre 2013 02:50:01 AM
Cita de: Lechuzo en Sábado 19 Octubre 2013 01:07:02 AM
Ahora si que rula Juse.
Gracias Lechuzo, ya he borrado la parrafada  y teneis el enlace operativo en mi primer post donde traducia al español, la ultima parte de la noticia.

No la deberías haber borrado, ¡las parrafadas no se deben borran nunca! (en todo caso ponerle un tamaño muy, muy pequeño)

púes eso, no funciona,
aquí otra copia de ese artículo: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/23966/24/
(articulo de opinión basado en este otro: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929340.800-spot-of-bother-have-we-been-getting-solar-activity-wrong.html )

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LONDON: Predictions that 2013 would see an upsurge in solar activity and geomagnetic storms disrupting power grids and communications systems have proved to be a false alarm. Instead, the current peak in the solar cycle is the weakest for a century.Subdued solar activity has prompted controversial comparisons with the Maunder Minimum, which occurred between 1645 and 1715, when a prolonged absence of sunspots and other indicators of solar activity coincided with the coldest period in the last millennium.The comparisons have sparked a furious exchange of views between observers who believe the planet could be on the brink of another period of cooling, and scientists who insist there is no evidence that temperatures are about to fall.New Scientist magazine blasted those who predicted a mini ice age, opening a recent article on the surprising lack of sunspots this year with the bold declaration: "Those hoping that the sun could save us from climate change look set for disappointment"."The recent lapse in solar activity is not the beginning of a decades-long absence of sunspots, a dip that might have cooled the climate. Instead it represents a shorter, less pronounced downturn that happens every century or so," ("Sun's quiet spell not the start of a mini ice age" July 12).The unusually low number of sunspots in recent years "is not an indication that we are going into a Maunder Minimum" according to Giuliana DeToma, a solar scientist at the High Altitude Observatory in Colorado.But DeToma admitted "we will do not know how or why the Maunder Minimum started, so we cannot predict the next one."Many solar experts think the downturn is linked a different phenomenon, the Gleissberg cycle, which predicts a period of weaker solar activity every century or so. If that turns out to be true, the sun could remain unusually quiet through the middle of the 2020s.But since the scientists still do not understand why the Gleissberg cycle takes place, the evidence is inconclusive. The bottom line is that the sun has gone unusually quiet and no one really knows why or how it will last.Counting sunspotsSolar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs), when billions of tonnes of solar plasma erupt from the surface of the sun and are flung out into space at speeds up to 3,000 kilometres per second, pose the biggest risk to power grids and communications systems.Sunspots are less dramatic, but because they are easy to count and closely correlated with flares, mass ejections and other indications of solar activity, astronomers and scientists have used them for centuries to monitor variations in the sun's activity.Careful observation has revealed the number of sunspots rises and falls in a regular cycle that repeats every 11 years.Variations in the amount of heat and light reaching the planet's surface as a result of the cycle are tiny. Total solar output reaching the surface varies by just 1.3 Watts per square metre (0.1 percent) between the maximum and minimum phases of the cycle.Even this variation has profound impacts on climate and weather. Rainfall, cloud formation and river run-off are all strongly correlated with the sun's 11-year cycle.The impact is far smaller than the warming associated with man-made climate change. Solar activity cannot explain long-term trends in global temperatures such as those associated with global warming. But it may have a noticeable impact over shorter timescales.Maunder MinimumNot all solar cycles are the same. Cycles in the 1940s and 1950s were especially strong. Those at the end or the 19th century and the start of the 20th were much weaker.More profoundly, in the 1890s, Walter Maunder of the Royal Observatory at Greenwich, identified a "prolonged sunspot minimum" between 1645 and 1715 in which hardly any sunspots were observed by contemporaries.At times, whole years passed without any sunspots being recorded. Sunspots became so rare that in 1684 Britain's Astronomer Royal John Flamsteed was moved to write: "these appearances, however frequent in the days of ... Galileo have been so rare of late that this is the only one I have seen ... since December 1676".John Eddy of the High Altitude Observatory confirmed Maunder's findings in an article published in the peer-reviewed journal Science in 1976 ("The Maunder Minimum: The reign of Louis XIV appears to have been a time of real anomaly in the behaviour of the sun").Eddy found convincing evidence for an actual absence of sunspots, not just an absence of observations. Maunder's prolonged sunspot minimum correlates well with other evidence of unusually low solar activity at the time, including few sightings of the Northern Lights, no mention of the sun's normally spectacular corona during eclipses, and the carbon-14 record in tree rings.The Maunder Minimum coincided with one of the coldest parts of the Little Ice Age, which spanned roughly the 15th to 19th centuries. Some observers have linked the lack of solar activity to the cooling of the climate, though the explanation remains controversial.It is this interaction between sunspots, climate and global warming that makes analysis of the solar cycle so controversial. It is hard to write about sunspots without stirring furious reactions, which explains why New Scientist took a strong line on the issue.Running late and lowCycles are conventionally numbered from the time that the first comprehensive records were kept around 1755. Before this, sunspot counts have to be estimated based on incomplete data. The current cycle, Solar Cycle 24, dates from around December 2008/January 2009.But Solar Cycle 24 is running late, and activity has been unusually weak throughout, taking solar scientists by surprise.The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Space Weather Prediction Center (SWPC) convenes a panel to assess when peaks and troughs in the cycle have occurred and forecast when the next peak or trough will occur.In March 2007 and again in June 2008, the panel forecast Solar Cycle 24 would peak between October 2011 and August 2012, with a monthly average of 90-140 sunspots.But as the sun's activity fell below the prediction, the forecast peak was pushed back to May 2013. Now some scientists believe it is only the first part of a double peak, with a second peak scheduled for 2014 or even 2015.During the minimum part of the cycle, "there are stretches of days and weeks when no sunspots can be seen, but a monthly mean of zero is uncommon," Eddy wrote in 1976. "In contrast, in the years around a sunspot maximum there is a seldom a day when a number of spots cannot be seen, and often hundreds are present."Not this time. Between July 2008 and August 2009, an average of less than 1 sunspot was observed in eight out of 13 months.Solar activity has since increased, but the cycle appeared to peak in May 2013, with only an average of only 77 sunspots visible, down sharply from previous peaks of 175 sunspots in July 2000 and 217 in June 1989.It is far below the level the panel predicted. "Not only is this the smallest cycle we've seen in the space age, it's the smallest cycle in 100 years," according to a NASA research scientist cited in the popular blog Universe Today("Solar Cycle 24: On track to be the weakest in 100 years).Even fewer sunspotsSolar activity has terrifying potential to paralyse modern electricity and communications systems.Lower solar activity might also be one factor explaining some of the recent slowdown in global warming."The longevity of the recent protracted solar minimum, at least two years longer than the prior minima of the satellite era makes that solar minimum a potentially potent force for cooling," according to one group of climate scientists ("Earth's energy imbalance and implications" Dec 2011).Even with the downturn in solar activity, the planet continued to absorb more energy than it radiated out into space.Yet as the frequent revisions to the panel's forecasts demonstrate, scientists have little ability to predict solar activity accurately, even over short timescales.The 11-year sunspot cycle, named after the amateur astronomer who discovered it in 1843, Heinrich Schwabe, is not the only cycle scientists have observed in the sun's behaviour. 
Será el 2011 cuando se de el maximo solar,al menos un pico del maximo solar,de este interesante ciclo 24?Pues no,Abril del 2014 con valor SSN=116'4.Esperando al Ciclo Solar 25.