Siempre es interesante ver a calentólogos "mojarse". Raro y exquisito fenómeno. Hay una del fantasma de Gavin Schmidt que me gusta especialmente:
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... To answer your question though, 1998 will likely be exceeded in all the indices within the next five years – the solar cycle upswing into the next solar max will help, and the next big El Nino will probably put it over the edge. -gavin]
Daniel Klein says:
29 December 2007 at 11:40 AM
OK, simply to clarify what I’ve heard from you.
(1) If 1998 is not exceeded in all global temperature indices by 2013, you’ll be worried about state of understanding
(2) In general, any year’s global temperature that is “on trend” should be exceeded within 5 years (when size of trend exceeds “weather noise”)
(3) Any ten-year period or more with no increasing trend in global average temperature is reason for worry about state of understandings
I am curious as to whether there are other simple variables that can be looked at unambiguously in terms of their behaviour over coming years that might allow for such explicit quantitative tests of understanding?
[Response: 1) yes, 2) probably, I'd need to do some checking, 3) No. There is no iron rule of climate that says that any ten year period must have a positive trend. The expectation of any particular time period depends on the forcings that are going on. If there is a big volcanic event, then the expectation is that there will be a cooling, if GHGs are increasing, then we expect a warming etc. The point of any comparison is to compare the modelled expectation with reality - right now, the modelled expectation is for trends in the range of 0.2 to 0.3 deg/decade and so that's the target. In any other period it depends on what the forcings are. - gavin]
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Tiene toda la pinta de que van a tener que confesar ciertas preocupaciones sobre el
state of understanding. Especialmente si sigue sin haber volcanes dignos de mención. Pero apuesto a que preferirán seguir con la gimnasia estadística ... hasta que se rompan finalmente el cuello. O buscando el calor perdido en el fondo del mar, matarile.
Por cierto, esa idea de que GISS incluye estaciones del Ártico, al contrario que HadCruT, me parece un poco cachonda. Lo que usa es una interpolación de 1.200 km, con lo que cubre todo el Ártico, y le salen unas anomalías que nadie más ve.
Pero si buscas su mapa con interpolación de "solo" 250 km, te das cuenta de que pone datos donde no hay datos:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2010&month_last=6&sat=4&sst=3&type=anoms&mean_gen=06&year1=2010&year2=2010&base1=1958&base2=2002&radius=250&pol=regLo mismo, más claro:
Tampoco es ningún secreto:
the 12-month running mean global temperature in the GISS analysis has reached a new record in 2010…. GISS analysis yields 2005 as the warmest calendar year, while the HadCRUT analysis has 1998 as the warmest year. The main factor is our inclusion of estimated temperature change for the Arctic region.- James Hansen
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20100601_TemperaturePaper.pdfMás explicaciones sobre las virguerías de Hansen en el Ártico:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/28/giss-arctic-vs-dmi-arctic-differences-in-method/http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/28/giss-polar-interpolation/