Un blog que explica el cambio climático en términos de ozono, presión, estratosfera, oscilaciones,...
https://reality348.wordpress.com/

la última referencia que aporta es este paper: http://ljp.gcess.cn/thesis/files/Xie_2016_Environ._Res._Lett._11_124026.pdf

Cita de: joseaveiga en Lunes 06 Febrero 2017 15:12:34 PM
Desde luego que sabes poco...............si piensas que losno planetas afectan al clima, es que de Gravitación vas flojo.....

Este es para enmarcar.  Paulino ha quedado definitivamente desbancado.

Cita de: _00_Un blog que explica el cambio climático en términos de ozono, presión, estratosfera, oscilaciones,...
https://reality348.wordpress.com/

Gracias por el dato. Parece muy interesante.

Un articulo interesante
http://www.dailywire.com/news/2071/most-comprehensive-assault-global-warming-ever-mike-van-biezen

Why Science Needs A 'Red Team' For Checks And Balances_Written by Dr John Christy

I believe policymakers, with the public's purse, should actively support the assembling all of the information that is vital to addressing this murky and wicked science, since the public will ultimately pay the cost of any legislation alleged to deal with climate.
Topics to be addressed in this "Red Team" assessment, for example, would include
(a) evidence for a low climate sensitivity to increasing greenhouse gases,
(b) the role and importance of natural, unforced variability,
(c) a rigorous and independent evaluation of climate model output,
(d) a thorough discussion of uncertainty,
(e) a focus on metrics that most directly relate to the rate of accumulation of heat in the climate system,
(f) analysis of the many consequences, including benefits, that result from CO2 increases, and
(g) the importance that affordable and accessible energy has to human health and welfare.
What this proposal seeks is to provide to the Congress and other policymakers a parallel, scientifically-based assessment regarding the state of climate science which addresses issues which here-to-for have been un- or under-represented by previous tax-payer funded, government-directed climate reports.

Cita de: hrizzo en Sábado 01 Abril 2017 12:58:51 PM
Why Science Needs A 'Red Team' For Checks And Balances_Written by Dr John Christy

I believe policymakers, with the public's purse, should actively support the assembling all of the information that is vital to addressing this murky and wicked science, since the public will ultimately pay the cost of any legislation alleged to deal with climate.
Topics to be addressed in this "Red Team" assessment, for example, would include
(a) evidence for a low climate sensitivity to increasing greenhouse gases,
(b) the role and importance of natural, unforced variability,
(c) a rigorous and independent evaluation of climate model output,
(d) a thorough discussion of uncertainty,
(e) a focus on metrics that most directly relate to the rate of accumulation of heat in the climate system,
(f) analysis of the many consequences, including benefits, that result from CO2 increases, and
(g) the importance that affordable and accessible energy has to human health and welfare.
What this proposal seeks is to provide to the Congress and other policymakers a parallel, scientifically-based assessment regarding the state of climate science which addresses issues which here-to-for have been un- or under-represented by previous tax-payer funded, government-directed climate reports.

Los artículos de John Christy están muy bien porque argumenta bien las cosas y las acompaña con ilustraciones gráficas fáciles de entender.

Con más gente como él publicando, se acabaría rápido la farsa de la influencia del C02 en el clima de la Tierra.

New Paper: Northern Hemisphere Temperatures Rose 4–5°C Within 'A Few Decades' 14,700 Years Ago

Since 1850, CO2 concentrations have risen from 285 ppm to 400 ppm.  During these ~165 years, the IPCC has concluded that surface temperatures have warmed by 0.78°C.  This is a warming rate of only 0.05°C per decade for 1850-2012 — which happens to be the same rate of warming over the 1998-2012 period.
...
According to a new paper, the Bølling Warming event 14,700 years ago raised the surface temperature for the entire Northern Hemisphere by 4 to 5°C within a few decades.  This is a hemispheric warming rate of approximately 2.0°C per decade, which is 40 times faster than the 0.05 °C per decade global warming rate since 1850 (and 1998).

Cita de: Eldelnorte en Sábado 01 Abril 2017 15:57:42 PM

Cita de: hrizzo en Sábado 01 Abril 2017 12:58:51 PM
Why Science Needs A 'Red Team' For Checks And Balances_Written by Dr John Christy

I believe policymakers, with the public's purse, should actively support the assembling all of the information that is vital to addressing this murky and wicked science, since the public will ultimately pay the cost of any legislation alleged to deal with climate.
Topics to be addressed in this "Red Team" assessment, for example, would include
(a) evidence for a low climate sensitivity to increasing greenhouse gases,
(b) the role and importance of natural, unforced variability,
(c) a rigorous and independent evaluation of climate model output,
(d) a thorough discussion of uncertainty,
(e) a focus on metrics that most directly relate to the rate of accumulation of heat in the climate system,
(f) analysis of the many consequences, including benefits, that result from CO2 increases, and
(g) the importance that affordable and accessible energy has to human health and welfare.
What this proposal seeks is to provide to the Congress and other policymakers a parallel, scientifically-based assessment regarding the state of climate science which addresses issues which here-to-for have been un- or under-represented by previous tax-payer funded, government-directed climate reports.

Los artículos de John Christy están muy bien porque argumenta bien las cosas y las acompaña con ilustraciones gráficas fáciles de entender.

Con más gente como él publicando, se acabaría rápido la farsa de la influencia del C02 en el clima de la Tierra.

De verdad podeis demostrar que una tasa 0......de Co2....tendría nulas influencia en el clima terrestre...?
Espero esa demostración con avidez....

Yo también espero con avidez la demostración de que influye.
Porque debo recordar que no ha sido demostrado, a pesar de que muchos indicios apunten a ello.

Cita de: Black Mirror en Domingo 16 Abril 2017 13:46:33 PM
Yo también espero con avidez la demostración de que influye.
Porque debo recordar que no ha sido demostrado, a pesar de que muchos indicios apunten a ello.

Ya lo hizo Svante Arrhenius, Premio Nobel de Química, en 1896.

Cita de: HCosmos en Domingo 16 Abril 2017 15:17:10 PM

Cita de: Black Mirror en Domingo 16 Abril 2017 13:46:33 PM
Yo también espero con avidez la demostración de que influye.
Porque debo recordar que no ha sido demostrado, a pesar de que muchos indicios apunten a ello.

Ya lo hizo Svante Arrhenius, Premio Nobel de Química, en 1896.

Debes de estar de coña, Svante jamas demostro que el CO2 afecte a la temperatura aumentandola lo que si que se ha demostrado sobradamente es que en la historia climatica de la tierra primero sube la temperatura y siglos despues el co2 jamas al contrario

Cita de: nikhotza en Lunes 17 Abril 2017 19:31:10 PM

Cita de: HCosmos en Domingo 16 Abril 2017 15:17:10 PM

Cita de: Black Mirror en Domingo 16 Abril 2017 13:46:33 PM
Yo también espero con avidez la demostración de que influye.
Porque debo recordar que no ha sido demostrado, a pesar de que muchos indicios apunten a ello.

Ya lo hizo Svante Arrhenius, Premio Nobel de Química, en 1896.

Debes de estar de coña, Svante jamas demostro que el CO2 afecte a la temperatura aumentandola lo que si que se ha demostrado sobradamente es que en la historia climatica de la tierra primero sube la temperatura y siglos despues el co2 jamas al contrario

Arrhenius 1896 - The Royal Society of Chemistry

Arrhenius's paper is the first to quantify the contribution of carbon
dioxide to the greenhouse effect (Sections I-IV) and to speculate about
whether variations in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide
have contributed to long-term variations in climate (Section V).
Throughout this paper, Arrhenius refers to carbon dioxide as "carbonic
acid" in accordance with the convention at the time he was writing.
Contrary to some misunderstandings, Arrhenius does not explicitly
suggest in this paper that the burning of fossil fuels will cause global
warming, though it is clear that he is aware that fossil fuels are a
potentially significant source of carbon dioxide (page 270), and he does
explicitly suggest this outcome in later work.
www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf

Decir que el CO2 aumenta con la temperatura es correcto, y lo contrario también.