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Días 5 y 6 de enero:

Tendencia a la estabilización en la Península, aunque aún podrían registrarse algunas precipitaciones en los extremos norte y sur y también en Baleares. Tendencia a establecerse el viento de componente N sobre la Península y Baleares acompañado de un descenso de las temperaturas. Continuará el tiempo estable y el régimen de alisios en Canarias.

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Vigorro podría arrastrar humedad suficiente esa entrada del norte.

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Pues mira, el europeo, haciendo de adivino antes de tu pregunta, tiene liberados los mapas de humedad... 8)

http://www.ecmwf.int/samples/d/banner/page.html

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Los ingleses tambien se "huelen" algo.....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article5409222.ece

Wrap up - Met Office warns of Siberian blast and freezing weather
Time to put on your woolies: a sheep near Muir of Ord, Inverness, yesterday

Paul Simons
It's time to get out the thermal underwear and thickest pullovers – Britain is set for shockingly cold weather for at least the next couple of weeks.

After a glorious Christmas, with not a hint of a snowflake, temperatures have been slipping steadily downwards, with minus 11C (12F) recorded in Aviemore, in the Highlands, on Saturday night.

The plunge into a Siberian blast of cold will worsen in the coming week as raw easterlies freeze the country. "This coming week, maximum daytime temperatures will be between 2C (36F) and 4C (39F) but temperatures at night could be well below zero for many places," said Stephen Holman, forecaster at the Met Office.

The freezing conditions are being swept down from a strong high-pressure system anchored close to Scandinavia. Like a boulder firmly stuck in a river, this anticyclone is refusing to budge and sending our usual wet and windy winter weather on a wide detour, a system known as a blocking weather pattern.

Fears for young seaman missing after dance
Although it will feel bitterly cold, conditions will also largely be dry, at least for the next few days, and no significant snowfall is expected, although northern and eastern regions could experience some snow.

Exactly how cold it will become largely depends on where the high pressure sits and how much cloud it drags off the North Sea. And cloudy skies are needed, because they act like a duvet cover, helping to prevent some of the heat loss from the ground. If the nights turn clear and winds are light, though, temperatures could plummet as low as minus 10C (14F) even in the South of England in the next fortnight.

In winter, low pressure tends to dominate over Iceland and high pressure to the south, over the Azores. These two pressure systems dance in tune with each other and drive our winter weather, in what is known as the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). When the Icelandic low and Azores high are strong, they steer wet and mild weather over the UK; but when they slacken off in a negative phase, that turns the UK bitterly cold. At present the NAO is turning negative, sending a powerful signal that the weather is set to continue cold.

How bad could this winter sink? The weather maps are a chilling reminder of some our most savage winters, such as the notorious 1962-63 winter, the coldest for 180 years. This was when the sea froze around the coast of southeast England and crops were dug out of frozen ground with pneumatic drills and blizzards paralysed the nation.

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¿Que dicen?, alguien puede traducir.Gracias

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El último párrafo es un recuerdo nostálgico del invierno del 62-63, en que se helo el mar del Norte en la costa Británica, y tuvieron que usar martillos neumáticos para sacar la cosecha (de patatas?) de la tierra. El texto parece escrito por un miembro de este foro: más amateur que si lo escribo yo. Pero por lo menos me he enterado de que el 56 de Inglaterra fue el 62.
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¡Aquella nevada del 26-12-04! Ya no nieva como antes..

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Cita de: Coldhearth en Martes 30 Diciembre 2008 12:44:08 PM
Los ingleses tambien se "huelen" algo.....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article5409222.ece

Wrap up - Met Office warns of Siberian blast and freezing weather
Time to put on your woolies: a sheep near Muir of Ord, Inverness, yesterday

Paul Simons
It's time to get out the thermal underwear and thickest pullovers – Britain is set for shockingly cold weather for at least the next couple of weeks.

After a glorious Christmas, with not a hint of a snowflake, temperatures have been slipping steadily downwards, with minus 11C (12F) recorded in Aviemore, in the Highlands, on Saturday night.

The plunge into a Siberian blast of cold will worsen in the coming week as raw easterlies freeze the country. "This coming week, maximum daytime temperatures will be between 2C (36F) and 4C (39F) but temperatures at night could be well below zero for many places," said Stephen Holman, forecaster at the Met Office.

The freezing conditions are being swept down from a strong high-pressure system anchored close to Scandinavia. Like a boulder firmly stuck in a river, this anticyclone is refusing to budge and sending our usual wet and windy winter weather on a wide detour, a system known as a blocking weather pattern.

Fears for young seaman missing after dance
Although it will feel bitterly cold, conditions will also largely be dry, at least for the next few days, and no significant snowfall is expected, although northern and eastern regions could experience some snow.

Exactly how cold it will become largely depends on where the high pressure sits and how much cloud it drags off the North Sea. And cloudy skies are needed, because they act like a duvet cover, helping to prevent some of the heat loss from the ground. If the nights turn clear and winds are light, though, temperatures could plummet as low as minus 10C (14F) even in the South of England in the next fortnight.

In winter, low pressure tends to dominate over Iceland and high pressure to the south, over the Azores. These two pressure systems dance in tune with each other and drive our winter weather, in what is known as the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). When the Icelandic low and Azores high are strong, they steer wet and mild weather over the UK; but when they slacken off in a negative phase, that turns the UK bitterly cold. At present the NAO is turning negative, sending a powerful signal that the weather is set to continue cold.

How bad could this winter sink? The weather maps are a chilling reminder of some our most savage winters, such as the notorious 1962-63 winter, the coldest for 180 years. This was when the sea froze around the coast of southeast England and crops were dug out of frozen ground with pneumatic drills and blizzards paralysed the nation.



Pues viene a decir...

Met Office advierte de explosion siberiana y tiempo helado...

Es hora de sacar los abrigos gruesos y termicos... se espera tiempo terriblemente frio para las dos proximas semanas... despues de una gloriosa Navidad sin un copo de nieve en las pistas, las temperaturas empiezan a bajar, con hasta -11 en Aviemore (Tierras Altas) el sabado pasado...

Las condiciones de frio vienen dadas por un sitema de altas presiones anclado cerca de Escandinavia... como una roca en mitad de un rio, este sistema se niega a darnos nuestro habitual tiempo ventoso y humedo, algo que se conoce como tiempo de bloqueo...

Todo va a depender del sistema de bloqueo del Mar del Norte... las temperaturas podrian caer hasta los -10 ºC incluso en el sur de Inglaterra durante la proxima quincena...

El invierno britanico viene determinado por una baja en Islandia y un anticiclon en Azores (NAO positiva), pero cuando esto se invierte el resultado es un invierno amargamente frio en Gran Bretaña... y esto esta sucediendo, que la NAO esta pasando a negativa...

Los mapas meteorologicos ahora son un escalofriante recordatorio de algunos de los mas salvajes inviernos nuestros, como el 62-63, el mas frio en los ultimos 180 años... fue entonces cuando el mar se congelo en torno a la costa del sureste de Inglaterra, los cultivos fueron sacados del suelo helado a base de martillos neumaticos, y las ventiscas paralizaron la nacion...


Leido asi, da hasta miedo... :cold:

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Cita de: Meteogab en Martes 30 Diciembre 2008 13:15:10 PMEl texto parece escrito por un miembro de este foro: más amateur que si lo escribo yo.

meteogab, he borrado tu traduccion automatica, no sirve de nada... ;)

Por otro lado, la noticia viene en The Times, y cita al Servicio Meteorologico Britanico como fuente (Met Office)... vamos, que no viene de un foro perdido de la mano de dios o de un blog de algun pirado... ::)

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Hay un fenomeno tambien, un yanke, un tal JOE BASTARDI, que tambien predijo algo parecido, y os lo pongo.

SEVERE COLD WAVE TO HIT EUROPE

The development of a major blocking high pressure system over the north Atlantic and its subsequent backing west is about to throw most of Europe into the coldest winter weather pattern in many a year. In fact, temps over the next month or so are liable to average 6-10 degrees F below normal over the center part of the continent with the northwest coldest last, but still getting into the games. Intuitive with this is the likelihood of more-than-normal snow and ice. As the upper block backs west, arctic discharges from the north and east are liable to bring shots of severe cold back into England and with it enhanced snowfall.

While it has been "chilly" so far, what is about to come is the worst in many a winter, perhaps the sign that the warm AMO is reaching its maturity. The U.S winter has been much like those around 1950 which was the benchmark winter in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S. and was the warning shot that the warm cycle of the '30s, '40s and '50s was starting its end game. It should be comforting to people worried that we are pushing our planet over the edge that things that happened before are happening again, though the discomfort caused by cold is a big problem.

I wish to point out, with no malice intended, that the two countries who have major scientific organizations that have been pushing the global warming idea, Britain and the UKMET and the US with NOAA have been burned by the cold that has developed here. NOAA had a December forecast for a warm central U.S. for November that they were forced to revise and the UKMET forecast for a rather bland winter for Europe speaks for itself. It's anything but bland, whether it averages out near the average or not, because what is coming has not been seen in years.

Now that could mean that its testimony to how warm it is... it hasn't been seen in years. But the fact it hasn't disappeared completely, the fact it is coming back and catching people offguard (hopefully not you) means there is no rout on, but plenty of doubt. If an enemy is vanquished, it should not be able to launch attacks of this magnitude.

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y lo ultimo que ha escrito del tema:

The reason I love to use London as a bellweather of northwestern Europe is that in a warm amo, it's tough to be cold there. This is not a backyard forecasting site, just a heads-up on some things I see coming and other topics, but to have a cold January in London is impressive given the cycle we are in. So here we go. December as of now is .8 below normal in London, the coldest areas in Europe have been over Spain. The east has been warm. Widepsread, and in some cases, extreme cold will develop by Jan. 5 and probably last through the 20th across most of Europe and so I am going to say January in London will be more than 2 degrees below normal and in fact could be as much as 3-4 F below, which would make it the coldest since the '80s.

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Bueno pues nada,..... mas leña al fuego.A ver si alguien lo traduce que mi ingles es muy malo. :-\

EDITO: mejor os dejo el enlace puesto que hay varios articulos de europa al respecto de la famosa ola de frio.

http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp
Desde Burgos esperando otra nortada perfecta, como esa de diciembre del 2004....apasionado del frio, de la carama,de la nieve,del hielo...

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Se están viendo previsiones espeluznantes diria yo, pero creo que son demasiado a la aventura.
Al menos el panorama ahora no ve esa ola de frío historica por ningún lado.
Los modelos siguen muy cambiantes, y sinceramente parece que se han tomado varias copas estos dias, con tantas fiestas... ::)
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lo mejor son los comentarios después del artículo de The Times :mucharisa:

The Met office is about as good at predicting long range weather forcasts as I am at predicting Grand National winners. Which is appalling. Despite all the money spent on Hi tech gadgetry. I take anything they have to say with an extremely large pinch of salt.

Alastair J S Adams, Worcester Park, United Kingdom

La Met office es tan buena prediciendo el tiempo a largo plazo como yo los ganadores del Grand National(la carrera de caballos por antonomasia en Inglaterra) ,algo atroz.  A pesar de todo el dinero gastado en artilugios "Hi tech".  Tomo cualquier cosa que digan con un gran pellizco de sal(que viene a ser: no me fio ni un pellizco)


otro comenta:

Durante este tiempo frío, podría alguien calcular cuánta energía va a ser generada por molinos de viento? algún intento? apuesto que será prácticamente despreciable
"Bad mathematicians become physicists, and bad physicists become meteorologists" - Aleksandr Friedman

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Cita de: Vigorro... en Martes 30 Diciembre 2008 13:16:26 PM
Cita de: Coldhearth en Martes 30 Diciembre 2008 12:44:08 PM
Los ingleses tambien se "huelen" algo.....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article5409222.ece

Wrap up - Met Office warns of Siberian blast and freezing weather
Time to put on your woolies: a sheep near Muir of Ord, Inverness, yesterday

Paul Simons
It's time to get out the thermal underwear and thickest pullovers – Britain is set for shockingly cold weather for at least the next couple of weeks.

After a glorious Christmas, with not a hint of a snowflake, temperatures have been slipping steadily downwards, with minus 11C (12F) recorded in Aviemore, in the Highlands, on Saturday night.

The plunge into a Siberian blast of cold will worsen in the coming week as raw easterlies freeze the country. "This coming week, maximum daytime temperatures will be between 2C (36F) and 4C (39F) but temperatures at night could be well below zero for many places," said Stephen Holman, forecaster at the Met Office.

The freezing conditions are being swept down from a strong high-pressure system anchored close to Scandinavia. Like a boulder firmly stuck in a river, this anticyclone is refusing to budge and sending our usual wet and windy winter weather on a wide detour, a system known as a blocking weather pattern.

Fears for young seaman missing after dance
Although it will feel bitterly cold, conditions will also largely be dry, at least for the next few days, and no significant snowfall is expected, although northern and eastern regions could experience some snow.

Exactly how cold it will become largely depends on where the high pressure sits and how much cloud it drags off the North Sea. And cloudy skies are needed, because they act like a duvet cover, helping to prevent some of the heat loss from the ground. If the nights turn clear and winds are light, though, temperatures could plummet as low as minus 10C (14F) even in the South of England in the next fortnight.

In winter, low pressure tends to dominate over Iceland and high pressure to the south, over the Azores. These two pressure systems dance in tune with each other and drive our winter weather, in what is known as the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). When the Icelandic low and Azores high are strong, they steer wet and mild weather over the UK; but when they slacken off in a negative phase, that turns the UK bitterly cold. At present the NAO is turning negative, sending a powerful signal that the weather is set to continue cold.

How bad could this winter sink? The weather maps are a chilling reminder of some our most savage winters, such as the notorious 1962-63 winter, the coldest for 180 years. This was when the sea froze around the coast of southeast England and crops were dug out of frozen ground with pneumatic drills and blizzards paralysed the nation.



Pues viene a decir...

Met Office advierte de explosion siberiana y tiempo helado...

Es hora de sacar los abrigos gruesos y termicos... se espera tiempo terriblemente frio para las dos proximas semanas... despues de una gloriosa Navidad sin un copo de nieve en las pistas, las temperaturas empiezan a bajar, con hasta -11 en Aviemore (Tierras Altas) el sabado pasado...

Las condiciones de frio vienen dadas por un sitema de altas presiones anclado cerca de Escandinavia... como una roca en mitad de un rio, este sistema se niega a darnos nuestro habitual tiempo ventoso y humedo, algo que se conoce como tiempo de bloqueo...

Todo va a depender del sistema de bloqueo del Mar del Norte... las temperaturas podrian caer hasta los -10 ºC incluso en el sur de Inglaterra durante la proxima quincena...

El invierno britanico viene determinado por una baja en Islandia y un anticiclon en Azores (NAO positiva), pero cuando esto se invierte el resultado es un invierno amargamente frio en Gran Bretaña... y esto esta sucediendo, que la NAO esta pasando a negativa...

Los mapas meteorologicos ahora son un escalofriante recordatorio de algunos de los mas salvajes inviernos nuestros, como el 62-63, el mas frio en los ultimos 180 años... fue entonces cuando el mar se congelo en torno a la costa del sureste de Inglaterra, los cultivos fueron sacados del suelo helado a base de martillos neumaticos, y las ventiscas paralizaron la nacion...


Leido asi, da hasta miedo... :cold:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article5409222.ece

Cabe esperar que no sea el único en decirlo, a ver si se animan por España que somos muy alarmistas para esto.
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